Project Integra - NL Build + conversion to motorcycle carbs

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Project Integra - NL Build + conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby Lody94 » September 9th, 2013, 6:32 pm

Hello there.
As some of you might know (facebook), I'm working on putting motorcycle carbs on my D15a1 teggy. And because I may be spamming the page, I figured it would probably be better to post it here. And ofcourse because someone might find it usefull.

Before I start with this thread I should say that I have not done such a thing before, just to inform you that things could actually not work ^^

Well let's start I guess?

The reason I want to replace my single carb, for four motorcycle carbs is: fun.
I like to 'build' and work on engines, and I just have to keep myself busy and spending money.

I am aware that if I do not tune the carbs the proper way, I could even lose power and such. But lets worry about that when the carbs are one there.

My quest started with me buying some Honda CB 900 Bol D'or carburators for $35, after cleaning them inside out this was left:
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The next thing to do was chopping the intake manifold so that the carbs could be mounted using silicone tubes. I did it all by hand, and it took me quite some time haha. But it turned out very well, and after sanding everything down it was ready to be used.
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When that was done I ordered 4 Silicone QSP Couplers and stainless steel hose clamps and this is what came to life:
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The problem I encountered with this setup is that the carbs are sitting too low as shown on the intake photo, the tubes of the intake manifold are facing down. The runners are also a little short (10cm).

There are two things that I could do;

-Buy aluminium tubes and position the carbs higher. The problem with this is that it won't be a smooth transition between the intake,tubes and carbs.

-Chop off the remaining tubes of the intake manifold, and weld four aluminium tubes on, this way the transition can be made smoother and it will look much better ofcourse. Will only be a bit more work.

That is what I'm at right now, thanks for reading and viewing!
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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby evtsteward » September 9th, 2013, 8:36 pm

Hey Lody. You need to host these pics on photobucket to be seen on this site.
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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby redteg73 » September 10th, 2013, 12:37 am

I''ve never seen carbs supported by silicone hoses before, i wouldn't think they would hold up, and i think the gasoline will be absorbed by silicone and cause issues, but i could be wrong. Charge forward and let us know the results!

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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby Lody94 » September 10th, 2013, 4:56 am

Ah damn, and I thought I did it right for once.. Will do this afternoon.

And for the silicone; the tubes do hold the carbs weight, and do not bend at all(for how long?).
The other thing, as you mentioned, is that the silicone is not resistant against petrol/gasoline. So I have to use aluminium tubes one way or the other, just figuring out which route I'm going to pick :)

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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby Miketakeahike » September 10th, 2013, 5:41 am

Very interesting setup, I will follow this Project :o
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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby evtsteward » September 10th, 2013, 4:15 pm

Much better. Thanks. :D
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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby Lody94 » September 11th, 2013, 7:30 pm

My brother knows an old colleague that welds aluminium for a living, should be ok :) But while browsing through other motorcycle-carbs conversions I've found a good alternative that will work too: Fuel filling hoses. Just researching atm tho.

Also buying and installing all kinds of parts atm, picking up power steering, (airco), bumper,lip and brackets for various things tommorow :) Will update once I've got the intake parts

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Postby Mr NW Classic » September 12th, 2013, 3:33 am

So sick!!! :D
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Postby ukteg » September 13th, 2013, 8:57 pm

great project, ive the same engine, ill be watching this for updates
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19-09 Update

Postby Lody94 » September 19th, 2013, 8:10 pm

This week my Chinese air filters arrived, and because I am a 'can't wait to try this out' person I ofcourse fitted the carbs, even though the runners are too short and one of the filters doesn't really fit properly.

The result was this:
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It's still a bit crowded with cables because I still have to sort out some gas/choke problems, and because I regularly check for any leaks of some kind.

The engine runs very smooth, it can idle at 500rpm with no problem, and also revs pretty good to the 6k mark(while still pulling). But bec the stock max power(with stock carb ofc) sits at 5700 rpm, I don't really want to go any higher.

The other thing I have been working on is installing Remote Central Locking, the first thing is to find spots where the motors can go, after that it's wiring everything up and It should work :)
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But wait, there is more :o

Last week I bought another 1.5, 4 door teg to use for parts, and since I had nothing to do today, I spent all my time replacing some broken or missing parts. With the help of an awesome friend, I was able to use his dad's land to drop the teg. Enjoy

These 2 photo's is what I started with today
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Replacing front bumper+brackets, cornering light, headlight, and middle bumper piece (?)
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This is what the donor engine looks like, got 140k kms on it, and is a exact copy of how my engine used to be, minus the power steering.
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Also replaced my stock 'super-cheap solution interior' for these EX-model fabric.
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That was about it, see below for the final results of today.

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Tommorow is another day :mrgreen:
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Thanks for reading and viewing:)

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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby Lody94 » September 19th, 2013, 8:17 pm

Btw, since this is not really only about converting the engine to carbs, I'll rename the topic to a 'EU-build' or something like that. So that after I am done with the carbs I can still keep updating ^^

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Re: Integra 1.5, conversion to motorcycle carbs

Postby evtsteward » September 19th, 2013, 8:18 pm

Damn! that's putting the day to good use. Well done Lodi. :D
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Re: Project Integra - NL Build + conversion to motorcycle ca

Postby Lody94 » September 20th, 2013, 7:59 pm

Today I continued the work of yesterday, in short this is what I did:

- Knocked out both the hub ball joint and the steering ball joint
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- Switched the front-left motormount to work with power steering
- Removed all brackets for the power steering, now waiting to be cleaned
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- Decided that the power steering belt needs to be changed
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- Drained and removed the stock radiator
- Got visited by a bunnnnyyyy
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- Figured out to my suprise that the cars are actually the same color, the donor car just needs to be washed and polished.

On shedule for tommorow is replacing the complete subframe and power steering stuff, without disassembling the unit.
And replacing all the doorpanels and center piece of the dashboard.


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Postby ukteg » September 22nd, 2013, 8:11 pm

coming on great - hope we seeing videos soon
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Re: Project Integra - NL Build + conversion to motorcycle ca

Postby Lody94 » December 29th, 2013, 10:26 pm

Well, it's been a while and a lot has happened in the meantime.

Everything that is mentioned above has been done, installed power steering and worked great! The whole interior was in a much better state after everything was exchanged :)



I also did manage to get the carbs working (started without modification), and drove quite a while with them. A vid of the first start is below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnTJgqLCuBI


Took three key turns and it fired up, had to pump the throttle to fill up the chambers. The sound that it produced was already much better than stock, the reason I couldn't test it more at the time was a big fuel leak.
(gasket was not seated properly)

After that was fixed it was time for a test drive, unfortunately I did not make any video's of 'really' driving with the carbs. I do have one video, but because of a big oil leak I didn't want to rev the engine too high.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYtEA8Wzxx8

At this point I decided to make the engine stock again, the winter was coming and on really cold starts the teg had trouble staying on. The plan was to mod the carbs and intake a bit, and put them on when the winter was over.


Another 'sad' thing is that I came across a nice trade-in deal with a Honda Civic Coupe '96. And because I really liked the model I decided to make the deal (all happened in ~2 days). The teg was finally running perfect and it should have been the time to enjoy the car.

Because I no longer have the Integra this topic will not be updated anymore, I'll post a selection of pictures of the weeks before the trade.

This is the last day the carbs where on, as you can see the engine leaked quite a bit of oil :(
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Had a lot of fun with the car, and it made me capable of fixing and working on cars! Learned everything I know on that thing in a 6 month period.('played' with it everyday :))

Thanks for the views and replies, and who knows, I might end up with a teg once more.

Lodi.

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Re: Project Integra - NL Build + conversion to motorcycle ca

Postby evtsteward » January 2nd, 2014, 1:36 pm

Tegs do kind of get under your skin a little. Nice job on the conversion and I hope the new owner takes as good of care with it as you have. Happy Holidays also!!! :D
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Re: Project Integra - NL Build + conversion to motorcycle ca

Postby MugenBOI » January 4th, 2014, 5:35 pm

it was a nice build


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